KSM Kangaroo Kourt

The Everlasting Phelps:

What Holder and Obama are doing is taking the chance of either setting KSM free, or making a mockery of our court system. True, the system has plenty to mock in it already, from testilying cops to rubber-stamp warrants to odious victimless crime convictions. But this choice — letting KSM go or cutting the heart out of the court system — is a choice that they willingly took upon themselves.

When Obama spouts BS like, “it will all be OK when we execute him” he’s whistling past the graveyard. If it’s a guaranteed conviction, it’s a kangaroo court worthy of Stalin.

I’ve gutted Phelps’ article, which is very short, and very pithy. Read the whole thing, through your tears if you have to.

Phelps also links to this list by Ken Klukowski of “Six Arguments I’d Make If I Were Defending KSM”, over at Fox News.

1. That his Fourth Amendment rights were violated by letters and conversations that the government intercepted without a search warrant.

2. That his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination were violated if the government attempts to use statements made before he was read his Miranda rights or after he was waterboarded (since the Obama administration calls it torture).

3. That his Sixth Amendment rights were violated by not providing a speedy trial, that the Speedy Trial Act (a federal statute) has also been violated, and that he has been denied adequate legal counsel.

4. I would also say he cannot get a fair trial in New York and move for change of venue.

5. I would challenge the admissibility of any evidence that was unsecured even for an hour, challenge the authenticity of any offered evidence, insist on his Sixth Amendment right to confront every witness against him, including the capturing officers, interrogators, guards, transport personnel, and whoever else I can think of.

6. I would raise objections of circumstantial evidence, hearsay, the witnesses’ integrity, and every other conceivable objection to the evidence and every procedural step.

Klukowski discusses the terrible, horrible implications of all this. A taste:

At every step, these trials could harm America. They can find out through court discovery America’s methods for gathering intelligence and how we are tracking their movements. They might find out who’s working undercover with us, what we’ve been told, who we’re watching, and what we’re positioning to do in the future.

More and more, it’s hard to see this as incompetence, and more as The Plan.

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5 Responses to “KSM Kangaroo Kourt”

  1. venomlash says:

    Wow…
    You do spend a lot of time typing on the ol’ computer, Dave.
    I haven’t felt bored enough to dredge through your muck for about a week now, so I saw quite a lot to dig through. And you know what? At least 3 out of every 4 or so were basically nothing more than you quoting or referencing something on another web site, with a token “I agree, so go read this” sort of statement. As such, I have resolved not to comment such posts of yours where we disagree and where you do not offer up some new insight or at least a small bit of evidence of independent thought. If you’re just repeating what somebody you look up to has said, then why should I waste my time thinking out a good refutal when you have obviously done no real thought of your own? (Not that you seem to do much thought on your own ever.) So, either you will treat this like swine flu, you will treat it as an incentive to post your own thoughts more so as to incite thought-provoking debate, or (and this is what I suspect will happen) you will just post more and more of other people’s borrowed ideas and thus get me off your gun-toting ass. I shall leave you to make your choice.
    Go do a line of cyanide,
    venomlash

    P.S. Ooh, you’re SOOO original by making the title of this post spell out “KKK”. WTF? Do you think that those hooded motherfuckers have the right thing going? Because if you do, it would explain why you want it to be easy for non-law-abiding citizens to get guns.
    P.P.S. I’ve got something to tell you about “My Gun is Not My Penis”. Post or reply if you wanna hear it. Betcha don’t.

  2. Dave says:

    I “want it to be easy for non-law-abiding citizens to get guns”? I do? Really? Where I have I ever said that?

    Red alert, Noodle. In places like Chicago, New York, New Jersey, California, Washington D.C., England, Jamaica, and etc. to infinity, the problem is, it’s easier for thugs to get guns than it is for the law abiding.

    Nobody’s ever been able to come up with a way around that other than making it trivial and cheap for the law abiding to be at least as well armed as the bad guys. Got a better idea? I’d love to hear it.

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    I am amused to discover the “KKK” in my title; thanks for pointing it out. No, it’s just that misspelling words like “Amerika” is a favorite tactic of the left, and this seemed a easy place to do it.

    And I certainly do not in any way condone the activities of the KKK. If you actually paid attention to some of what I wrote or linked to recently, if, for instance, you actually read the briefs for McDonald, you would know that the roots of gun control are indeed racist, that in many places, gun control laws were established so that gangs of thugs like the KKK could go about their filthy business unopposed.

    Here’s something I did write, all by my lonesome, Doodle:

    If you’re a slave, you can talk about Master behind his back. Oh, you’ll get a mighty whippin’ if you’re caught, but you can talk. You can huddle around the lantern at night with the curtains drawn, and teach your children to read, and put them to bed confused about this “freedom” nonsense you go on about. You can practice your quaint backwoods religion, ’specially if you sing real nice when Master’s around. You can even run away, and ask other people to take you to a land where Master probably can’t find you, and if you’re real lucky and they’re honest, they won’t turn you in for the reward.

    But until you can stand on your front porch, point a gun at your would-be master and his dogs, two-footed and four-footed, and tell him to fuck off or die, you are still his slave, and he can still drag you back, whip you, rape you, and put you and yours back in his fields where you belong.

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    “I’ve got something to tell you about “My Gun is Not My Penis’.”

    I am all agog.

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    Oh, and Noodle?

    I write here for my amusement and to spread the ideas I favor, even if I don’t have time write new original essays, or fill in all the blanks for the lazy and ignorant.

    This blog isn’t about you or for you, Poodle. I’ve never been able to understand why you ever thought it was.

  3. Aneusz says:

    Gun’s is bad [spam links removed]

  4. Dave says:

    Ah, finally, one of my numerous registrations from the .pl domain comments.

    Unfortunately, it’s spam.

    I’d love to know why I get so many registrations from Poland, since it’s not at this time necessary to register to comment, and none of them (up till now) have ever commented anyway. What’s the benefit?

  5. venomlash says:

    Wow, you really broke the bank looking for words that rhyme with “noodle”. And since when is “misspelling words like ‘Amerika’” a “favorite tactic of the left”? I always thought it was a favorite tactic of semi-literate people and the occasional advertiser. I can only wonder where you got that idea.
    And I am well aware that this blog is not about me, it’s about you and your insane ideas, most of which are borrowed from people who are crazy more creatively than you. By the way, spreading your ideas would work a lot better if you had actual readers apart from me and good ol’ Shrink Wrap (assuming he’s not just you making another profile, for which I am giving him the benefit of the doubt).

    How do background checks ever make it easier for thugs to get guns and not law-abiding citizens? The point of a background check is to weed out those thugs. And in a lot of metropolitan areas, including NYC and parts of California, police estimate that the majority of guns used in violent crimes come from out of state. It’s states that treat gun control like smallpox allowing the thugs of more civilized states with more sensible attitudes towards guns.

    On “My Gun is Not My Penis”: Your gun is not your penis. NO FUCKING SHIT. When people tote guns, they are rarely if ever compensating for a little wiener. If anything, they are compensating for a perceived lack of manliness in some other way. Aggression is biologically prevalent in male apes such as you and me, and a big part of manliness in society is one’s ability to defend oneself and one’s family, or even more so to assert dominance or superiority over others. If you are physically weak (or perceive yourself as being so) you may decide to carry a gun to make yourself feel stronger. I am free of this; I know my capabilities and my limits, and am comfortable with them. I trust in my fists, legs, and jaws. You, if you actually would feel almost naked without a firearm, are either paranoid, self-consciously overcompensating, or the unfortunate denizen of a really bad neighborhood. And I mean a REALLY bad neighborhood, and I am typing these words from the south side of Chicago. The existence of other kinds of manliness besides that implied by the size of your dick is obvious even to the most moronic fool. It seems as if the only reason for writing that load of bull is to display your antecedent’s bizarre and slightly disturbing cane. Have fun with that. Are you still all agog?

    I read your own piece of work, and what a piece of work it is. So…we are the slaves of the national government? And we need to rise up with guns in our hands? Is that it? I may be reading in to it too much. If I’m correct in my interpretation, then it’s a ridiculous load of bullpucky. If it’s just an antebellum story of the need for black empowerment, then it’s entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Either way, I am unimpressed. But then again, you’re not out to impress me. But then again, I’ve read better prose on the back of a shampoo bottle.

    Go yammer to the masses of people who don’t give a fuck what you say,
    venomlash