Oh, wait, no, sorry; that would be Mohammad who incites violence amongst his devout.
Osama bin Laden’s communiqués have also quoted the Koran copiously. In his 1996 “Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places,” he quotes seven Koran verses: 3:145; 47:4-6; 2:154; 9:14; 47:19; 8:72; and the notorious “Verse of the Sword,” 9:5. Bin Laden began his October 6, 2002, letter to the American people with two Koran quotations, both of a martial bent: “Permission to fight (against disbelievers) is given to those (believers) who are fought against, because they have been wronged and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory” (22:39) and “Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (anything worshipped other than Allah e.g. Satan). So fight you against the friends of Satan; ever feeble is indeed the plot of Satan” (4:76).”
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One pro-Osama website put it this way: “The truth is that a Muslim who reads the Koran with devotion is determined to reach the battlefield in order to attain the reality of Jihad. It is solely for this reason that the Kufaar [unbelievers] conspire to keep the Muslims far away from understanding the Koran, knowing that Muslims who understand the Koran will not distance themselves from Jihad.”
And yet, Spencer points out, it is not the kufaars, the non-believers, who need to be worried about harassment and, uh, getting killed and stuff. No, no.
Silly me. I thought that after an Islamic jihadist murdered twelve innocent non-Muslims, it would be the non-Muslims who would need reassuring and protecting. But of course that non-existent backlash takes priority over 12 dead unbelievers.
“Some Muslims fear backlash after rampage: In the wake of Fort Hood tragedy, Houston authorities try to assure the faithful steps are being taken to keep followers safe,” by Moises Mendoza and Lindsay Wise for the Houston Chronicle, November 7:
In Houston, government officials have been working to reassure Muslims that they’re safe, pointing out that there have been few cases of retaliation locally after previous attacks involving Muslims.
There have been few cases anywhere. So few that CAIR has had to invent them.
As always, I have to say (just because, so far, anyway, I can, and because it really upsets some people): There is no god, not even Allah, and Mohammad, may piss be upon him, was no prophet, but a child molesting mass-murderer.
Tom Maguire, over at JustOneMinute, points out “Some dots just can’t be connected.” He points to this piece from the New York Post:
What interpretation of Islam influ enced Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan? As often before, the trail leads to the official sect of Saudi Arabia — known as Wahhabism to most of us of who denounce it.
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We’ve also learned that, before his transfer to Ft. Hood last year, Hasan served as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, DC, and regularly attended Friday prayer at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, Md.The Silver Spring clerics have issued formal statements condemning the carnage at Ft. Hood. But Imam Faizul Khan, long the main prayer leader at the mosque and a friend of Hasan, said he never believed Hasan capable of such an act.
Yet what docrines did Hasan absorb at the mosque? While he was a communicant, it hosted at least four talks by Enver Masud, the founder of The Wisdom Fund, the main Muslim “truther” group in America [link, link].
And Khan is a leading board member of the Islamic Society of North America — the main Wahhabi-lobby group in the United States, established by Saudi Arabia to impose extremism on American Muslims. ISNA has a long and disgraceful record of promoting radical Islam.
Read the whole thing for the links.
Here’s the problem: it’s cover-ups, misdirection, and denial like the Chronicle engages that will eventually result in exactly the kind of “backlash” they claim to be trying to head off.
The NYPost gets it more right:
Confronting the role of radical Islam here is not Islamophobic, but common sense — and the first response moderate Muslims themselves will have.
“More right”, because the only way to ensure that moderate Muslims confront radical Islam, and pull it out by the roots, is to make America a very uncomfortable place for Muslims generally as part of the aftermath of incidents like Ft. Hood.
Let me point out that I believe the overwhelming majority of American Muslims to be “moderate”, i.e., non-observant or minimally observant, about on par with most American Christians.
However, we absolutely must hold the moderates responsible for the actions of the jihadists sheltering among them.
They should be every bit as afraid as the rest of us should be. Coddling them, and their viper brethren, is close to suicide.
Wait, wait, wait…so if I have a neighbor who is Muslim, who prays at a mosque once every week or three, who isn’t too uptight about the picayune of the Koran but rather follows the main tenets (like doing good deeds and following only the one God)…I need to terrorize him and everyone in the same boat as him because of a man who snapped under the strain of impending deployment? (He may have been conflicted about his religion and the war, but by ALL first-hand accounts, it was to do with stress from shipping out.) You are calling for a witch hunt.
And here I quote the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” To attack a group based solely on their religion would be to infringe upon the right to free exercise of religion. You should read that Constitution more thoroughly instead of just reading the Second Amendment over and over again.
If we attack innocents just because they have an (inconsequential) trait in common with murderers, we are no better than Osama and his cronies. That’s not how America operates; we are supposed to protect the innocent, not persecute them. The logic you use goes back to the days when Jews were massacred because of the (thoroughly false) claims that some of them had committed murder, most commonly accusations of poisoning wells or the infamous blood libel. You might as well carry out witch hunts against whites on the grounds that some of them are white supremacists, and, naturally, the rest must be protecting them.
Now, I know you’re going to say, “They’re not innocent! They’re defending the extremists!”
BULLSHIT.
What have any of our Muslim neighbors ever done to protect a murderer? Precious few have lifted a finger in defense of a religious fanatic. It is just plain wrong to oppress the masses of innocent in search of a few guilty people.
Now, in response to your quoting of the Verse of the Sword, Bin Laden’s logic is just as faulty as yours. Since Islam professes to follow the same God as Judaism, Christianity, and several others (known collectively as the Religions of the Book), the majority of those who Islamic extremists have attacked are ACCORDING TO THE KORAN ITSELF to be treated as friends, brothers, and believers. I quote the English translation of the Koran (as the Koran itself is by definition written in Arabic): “And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, “We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam).” (029.046)
And again: “Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” (002.062)
See, it is unfair and malicious to tar the average Muslim in this country or on this planet with the same brush as those who, in vicious rage, twist, pervert, and forget the words of the God that they profess to follow.
And if you think that innocent Muslims have not been attacked in reprisal for the murders committed by the extremists, then you are blinder than Oedipus. Shortly after the tragedy of 9/11, in my hometown (which is very [gasp] LIBERAL, progressive, and tolerant), an honest citizen was beaten by thugs in the street simply because he was wearing his turban, just like always. Now this is not a reprisal against Muslims in the strictest sense, as the man was not, in fact, a Muslim, but it is the intent and not the result that we must judge in this case.
The one thing that you are correct about here is that Jesus, according to the New Testament, was not big on inciting violence. It’s more the popes and other Common Era religious leaders in Christianity that have done that, by means of such wicked tools as the Crusades and the Inquisition. (I know, you grow weary of hearing these examples over and over again. Tough monkey nuggets. They’re too good as cases-in-point to be used once and discarded.)
Now I’m sure you’re tired of reading all that (I imagine too much thinking makes your brain hurt), so I’ll summarize. You should come away with the following:
1. You’re an asshole and a traitor to the Founding Fathers who you claim to hold in such high regard if you think that we should persecute Muslims.
2. The Koran (which, remember, is said to be dictated through Mohammed, not composed by him), stresses tolerance of all those who follow the same God as Mohammed. (Jews and Christians are the most notable.)
3. The people who claim to wage a holy war are cherry-picking the Koran and taking quotes out of context to justify their insane aggression.
Mangez la merde,
venomlash
P.S. You must just be tickled pink that you’re annoying me by saying something that’s not true and highly offensive. Gonna show me any evidence that it is true anytime soon?
P.P.S. You seem to be upset about people proselytizing (as evidenced by the froth you worked up over Islamic Water and the Holy Words Miracle Toddler), but you have no problem telling other people what to think in terms of the existence of a god. You’re such a filthy hypocrite. I feel dirty just typing something you’ll read. Well, actually, I don’t know if you read these. You don’t seem to try and refute my points anywhere. Too bad, really. Until I see otherwise, I must assume I’m your only reader. So sad…
P.P.P.S. By the way, WE WON! The health care bill that the Teabaggers and other such crazies like yourself have railed so impotently against HAS PASSED THE HOUSE! SUCK IT, DAVE!